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	<description>Real Estate News and Views for Metrowest Massachusetts. Published by Bill Gassett RE/MAX Executive Realty</description>
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		<title>By: Bill Gassett</title>
		<link>http://massrealestatenews.com/price-per-square-foot-is-misleading-for-real-estate-values/comment-page-1/#comment-4937</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Gassett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mark. I think the cost per square foot valuation would be helpful in this instance you have sited. The reason being you are talking about virtually the identical home in the same location. The only variable that is changing according to what you have described is the size. This makes cost per square foot a much more usable tool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mark. I think the cost per square foot valuation would be helpful in this instance you have sited. The reason being you are talking about virtually the identical home in the same location. The only variable that is changing according to what you have described is the size. This makes cost per square foot a much more usable tool.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Gibbons</title>
		<link>http://massrealestatenews.com/price-per-square-foot-is-misleading-for-real-estate-values/comment-page-1/#comment-4928</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Gibbons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 23:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bill,
Great article...along with the comments that followed.  How would you determine value for this situation:  Home A recently sold for $465,000, and is 2,580 sq feet.  Home B is 1,940 sq feet.  Both homes are in the same neighborhood, are the same age, have the same amount amount of Bedrooms/baths along with being in similar condition.  Basically, home B is a smaller version of home A.  EVERYTHING else is the same.  There hasn&#039;t been any other sales within the neighborhood within the last 24 months, never mind 6 months.  Thoughts??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bill,</p>
<p>Great article&#8230;along with the comments that followed.  How would you determine value for this situation:  Home A recently sold for $465,000, and is 2,580 sq feet.  Home B is 1,940 sq feet.  Both homes are in the same neighborhood, are the same age, have the same amount amount of Bedrooms/baths along with being in similar condition.  Basically, home B is a smaller version of home A.  EVERYTHING else is the same.  There hasn&#8217;t been any other sales within the neighborhood within the last 24 months, never mind 6 months.  Thoughts??</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gassett</title>
		<link>http://massrealestatenews.com/price-per-square-foot-is-misleading-for-real-estate-values/comment-page-1/#comment-4567</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Gassett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 14:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob without even knowing a thing about where you are or your market, I can tell just by your comment you are talking about homes that are all relatively similar in terms of construction and building classification. Everything you are mentioning speaks of condition which of course is one measure of value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob without even knowing a thing about where you are or your market, I can tell just by your comment you are talking about homes that are all relatively similar in terms of construction and building classification. Everything you are mentioning speaks of condition which of course is one measure of value.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob M</title>
		<link>http://massrealestatenews.com/price-per-square-foot-is-misleading-for-real-estate-values/comment-page-1/#comment-4564</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2011 16:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to throw a vote to $/sq ft being a good qualifier of comparable homes. So in a similar area and similar size and age, I could tell by the $/sq ft how much work was going to be needed to move in. A year ago a place with defective dry wall or in need of flooring/appliances/AC/water system and then some went for less than $30/sq ft.  Similar size homes with used but working equipment and carpet in need of cleaning could go for 40-50/sq ft.  If the $/sq ft was much above that, it was in good shape.   One search I did showed a minimum number of properties over $70.
Now, today, a year later ... prices are up 17% and inventory is way down. There ARE NO PROPERTIES under almost $40 and there are dozens OVER $70. Fixer uppers are generally gone.  People (investors) have bought up the real dogs, fixed them up and are selling them for FULL value. Now homes with $/sq ft in the 40&#039;s need work and more and more homes are entering the upper range.
$/sq ft is fluid; it is very relative. So for almost each client, I search for the property they want and generate a list. I then search for those same properties which have SOLD  in the last 3 - 6 month. Many times the least expensive homes that are available are 20 - 40% HIGHER than the least expensive homes which have just sold. House + amount of work/equipment = full value. Full value + extras = higher price.
Just my thoughts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to throw a vote to $/sq ft being a good qualifier of comparable homes. So in a similar area and similar size and age, I could tell by the $/sq ft how much work was going to be needed to move in. A year ago a place with defective dry wall or in need of flooring/appliances/AC/water system and then some went for less than $30/sq ft.  Similar size homes with used but working equipment and carpet in need of cleaning could go for 40-50/sq ft.  If the $/sq ft was much above that, it was in good shape.   One search I did showed a minimum number of properties over $70.<br />
Now, today, a year later &#8230; prices are up 17% and inventory is way down. There ARE NO PROPERTIES under almost $40 and there are dozens OVER $70. Fixer uppers are generally gone.  People (investors) have bought up the real dogs, fixed them up and are selling them for FULL value. Now homes with $/sq ft in the 40&#8242;s need work and more and more homes are entering the upper range.</p>
<p>$/sq ft is fluid; it is very relative. So for almost each client, I search for the property they want and generate a list. I then search for those same properties which have SOLD  in the last 3 &#8211; 6 month. Many times the least expensive homes that are available are 20 &#8211; 40% HIGHER than the least expensive homes which have just sold. House + amount of work/equipment = full value. Full value + extras = higher price.</p>
<p>Just my thoughts</p>
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		<title>By: Charles McDonald</title>
		<link>http://massrealestatenews.com/price-per-square-foot-is-misleading-for-real-estate-values/comment-page-1/#comment-4550</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles McDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 00:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When looking at square footage numbers our MLS just started to break out above grade vs below grade. This has helped greatly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When looking at square footage numbers our MLS just started to break out above grade vs below grade. This has helped greatly.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gassett</title>
		<link>http://massrealestatenews.com/price-per-square-foot-is-misleading-for-real-estate-values/comment-page-1/#comment-4506</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Gassett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 21:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justin the topic of dollars per square foot when calculating Real Estate value doesn&#039;t necessarily have anything to do with cost to build. Nothing was mentioned about comparing prefab homes to a high end custom home either. The article really discusses how their are classifications of housing and within those classifications you can see a wide gamete of amenities. I completely disagree with your assertion that building quality and amenities amenities do not come into play when evaluating housing. What goes into a home can have a tremendous impact on value and ultimate sale price.
Your argument makes more sense when you are talking about a neighborhood that has homes built with the same builder who used relatively similar building specifications for all the homes. Your argument does not hold water when comparing custom homes to homes that are stripped. As an example there are plenty of homes built in neighborhoods where the homes are identical in size but don&#039;t sell for anywhere near the same price. Some builders load their homes with custom features with the highest quality possible. Other tailor their homes based on affordability.
Price per square foot does not account for land costs or location among other variables as well. I am sure their are some neighborhoods where you live that command a premium event though they could be the same size home as a lesser desired area?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justin the topic of dollars per square foot when calculating Real Estate value doesn&#8217;t necessarily have anything to do with cost to build. Nothing was mentioned about comparing prefab homes to a high end custom home either. The article really discusses how their are classifications of housing and within those classifications you can see a wide gamete of amenities. I completely disagree with your assertion that building quality and amenities amenities do not come into play when evaluating housing. What goes into a home can have a tremendous impact on value and ultimate sale price.</p>
<p>Your argument makes more sense when you are talking about a neighborhood that has homes built with the same builder who used relatively similar building specifications for all the homes. Your argument does not hold water when comparing custom homes to homes that are stripped. As an example there are plenty of homes built in neighborhoods where the homes are identical in size but don&#8217;t sell for anywhere near the same price. Some builders load their homes with custom features with the highest quality possible. Other tailor their homes based on affordability.</p>
<p>Price per square foot does not account for land costs or location among other variables as well. I am sure their are some neighborhoods where you live that command a premium event though they could be the same size home as a lesser desired area?</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 16:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree with the general conclusion of this article. It seems like everyone is focused on cost to build. $/SF is not the only metric, and a pre-fab low end home vs a higher end custom home is not a reasonable comparison. But, $/SF is a often extremely valuable metric when comparing similar homes in the same area.  It is not a measure of cost to build. It is a measure of what the market will bear.
All those high end amenities translate to higher cost to build or replacement cost, but not necessarily $ for $ market value.   There is plenty of data about ROI for remodels that show this. The higher you go above your relative market in cost to build, there are less potential buyers and return. If your cost to build was double the $/SF for similar houses in the region you will likely take a haircut when you sell. Nice amenities may appeal to more buyers, but ultimately market value is only what someone will pay for it. $/SF for reasonably comparable homes is a tool that should be used when making purchasing , building or remodeling decisions. It won&#039;t do the fine tuning, but if there are enough comparable homes, it will get you into the ballpark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with the general conclusion of this article. It seems like everyone is focused on cost to build. $/SF is not the only metric, and a pre-fab low end home vs a higher end custom home is not a reasonable comparison. But, $/SF is a often extremely valuable metric when comparing similar homes in the same area.  It is not a measure of cost to build. It is a measure of what the market will bear.</p>
<p>All those high end amenities translate to higher cost to build or replacement cost, but not necessarily $ for $ market value.   There is plenty of data about ROI for remodels that show this. The higher you go above your relative market in cost to build, there are less potential buyers and return. If your cost to build was double the $/SF for similar houses in the region you will likely take a haircut when you sell. Nice amenities may appeal to more buyers, but ultimately market value is only what someone will pay for it. $/SF for reasonably comparable homes is a tool that should be used when making purchasing , building or remodeling decisions. It won&#8217;t do the fine tuning, but if there are enough comparable homes, it will get you into the ballpark.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Wilcox</title>
		<link>http://massrealestatenews.com/price-per-square-foot-is-misleading-for-real-estate-values/comment-page-1/#comment-4051</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Wilcox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 13:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Gassett, above, is correct.
If you use recent sales by neighborhood, then zone, and using the same style of home, you are off to a very reliable per sq. ft. analysis of value. You correctly give the  way to rectify values by the age and quality of the homes used.  So, give a total of five or six rankings, and, voila, you have a way to adjust upwards or downwards by its rank.
Five rankings, with new construction being 1, or the best, and a tear down being 5, gives you a rough adjustment capability of 20% up or down.  So, if I am trying to estimate the value of new construction in a one acre zone in a neighborhood that has only had homes over 5 years old sold as my comps, I will take the average of those heated, livable sq. ft. numbers and mark them up by 20%. You will find that this will give you a very good number, providing we are, indeed, comparing heated livable sq. ft. and not gross improved area, which includes garages, porches, decks, mechanical rooms, etc. As for finished basements, you can either throw the improved area, under air, as they say in the south, in its entirety or take 50% of it and add it on.
Mark ups of 5% are usually good for aspects, such as location, pools, tennis courts, amenities, quality of neighborhood relative to others in the particular zone, etc. However, you will find that these balance out in many cases, making the rougher estimate very reliable.
Jonathan Wilcox</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Gassett, above, is correct. </p>
<p>If you use recent sales by neighborhood, then zone, and using the same style of home, you are off to a very reliable per sq. ft. analysis of value. You correctly give the  way to rectify values by the age and quality of the homes used.  So, give a total of five or six rankings, and, voila, you have a way to adjust upwards or downwards by its rank. </p>
<p>Five rankings, with new construction being 1, or the best, and a tear down being 5, gives you a rough adjustment capability of 20% up or down.  So, if I am trying to estimate the value of new construction in a one acre zone in a neighborhood that has only had homes over 5 years old sold as my comps, I will take the average of those heated, livable sq. ft. numbers and mark them up by 20%. You will find that this will give you a very good number, providing we are, indeed, comparing heated livable sq. ft. and not gross improved area, which includes garages, porches, decks, mechanical rooms, etc. As for finished basements, you can either throw the improved area, under air, as they say in the south, in its entirety or take 50% of it and add it on. </p>
<p>Mark ups of 5% are usually good for aspects, such as location, pools, tennis courts, amenities, quality of neighborhood relative to others in the particular zone, etc. However, you will find that these balance out in many cases, making the rougher estimate very reliable. </p>
<p>Jonathan Wilcox</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Gassett</title>
		<link>http://massrealestatenews.com/price-per-square-foot-is-misleading-for-real-estate-values/comment-page-1/#comment-3844</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Gassett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2011 12:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Doug I appreciate the compliments on my price per square foot article. Most people automatically assume that this a a good way to figure out home values which of course it is NOT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Doug I appreciate the compliments on my price per square foot article. Most people automatically assume that this a a good way to figure out home values which of course it is NOT!</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Fuhrman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug Fuhrman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2011 12:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill, great article. I&#039;m a Relocation Counselor and always have my transferee&#039;s trying to use the whole &quot;price per sq foot&quot; argument when debating their appraisal results. I&#039;ve always felt it&#039;s not a good indicator as it&#039;s way to broad a view, but I&#039;ve never heard it articulated so well. I&#039;ll be keeping this article at my desk and referring back to it from time to time.. Good job!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, great article. I&#8217;m a Relocation Counselor and always have my transferee&#8217;s trying to use the whole &#8220;price per sq foot&#8221; argument when debating their appraisal results. I&#8217;ve always felt it&#8217;s not a good indicator as it&#8217;s way to broad a view, but I&#8217;ve never heard it articulated so well. I&#8217;ll be keeping this article at my desk and referring back to it from time to time.. Good job!!</p>
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